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Never a clear look for Garmon
Iowa's running back depth chart has at least 5 going into 2013
Iowa Hawkeyes fullback Brad Rogers (38), running back Mark Weisman (45), and running back Damon Bullock (32). (Brian Ray/The Gazette-KCRG)
There are big picture and “who’s the fullback” questions that come out of Greg Garmon’s departure.
The big picture question is did Iowa maximize Greg Garmon’s skill set? He played in 10 games as a true freshman. He rushed 38 times for 122 yards and caught eight passes for 57. He showed a fluidity in space. He seemed jittery running inside, but, let’s not forget, he mangled an elbow against UNI and missed just one game. So, Garmon was tough.
He also had obvious obstacles on the depth chart. He started the season as No. 2 behind Damon Bullock, who carried 30 times for 150 yards in the opener. Iowa backs have logged 30 carries in a game just eight times in the last six seasons. Bullock had 77 yards on just 13 carries against UNI before suffering a concussion and missing four games.
In the same game, Garmon injured his elbow and little-known fullback Mark Weisman started to get carries at running back. From the second quarter of UNI to the first quarter of Minnesota two weeks later, Weisman logged every carry for the Hawkeyes, going 58 straight. Garmon finally broke that up against Minnesota.
When Weisman suffered an ankle injury, Garmon was the No. 1 against Penn State. Garmon had 27 yards, but the offense suffered injuries to O-linemen Brandon Scherff and Andrew Donnal and went nowhere. The Hawkeyes finished with 20 rushing yards (0.9 yards a carry on 23 attempts), their worst performance since minus-9 in a 31-6 loss at Ohio State in 2005.
Bullock returned the next week at Northwestern and rushed for 107 yards. Garmon logged one carry the next three weeks (Northwestern, Indiana and DNP against Purdue). Bullock suffered a back bruise. Weisman returned. So, no, Garmon never had a clear path to the job. He carried 10 times against Michigan, but those came when it was out of hand in favor of Michigan.
At 6-0, 190, Garmon wasn’t built for a power-running game, which is as close as Iowa’s offense came to a label in ’12, at least until Weisman, Scherff and Donnal were injured.
The look we had at Garmon was extremely limited. Did he have skills to build a personnel group around? Should plays have been called for him? Hard to say with certainty. Now, we’ll never know. He said it didn’t “click” here and he’s gone, the 11th running back to leave Iowa with eligibility remaining since the 2008 season.
FWIW, Iowa doesn’t do a two-back system. It messed around with it in 2002, when Fred Russell was putting in the first of his back-to-back 1,200-plus yard and Jermelle Lewis looked like a super back. Iowa hasn’t shown a system with a defined role for the No. 1-B back in Kirk Ferentz’s 14 seasons. There’s no solid template for getting two backs with running back skills on the field at the same time.
Which brings us to fullback. Iowa doesn’t have one right now. There are two walk-ons, Adam Cox and Berkley Grimm, listed at fullback. Senior Brad Rogers has had offseason back surgery to repair an injury that kept him off the field much of 2012.
Iowa didn’t use a lot of fullback in 2012, not with Rogers out and Weisman at running back.
Kirk Ferentz has said that Weisman will get a scholarship in January and that he will stay at running back. Two ways to look at this: 1) Iowa finds a new fullback (a position that is usually “found” among walk-ons and converted linebackers); 2) Maybe this is the opening for a personnel group that includes two backs with running back skills?
Taking a stab at Iowa’s RB depth chart:
Junior Mark Weisman — Led Iowa with 815 yards and eight TDs, averaging 5.13 yards a carry.
Junior Damon Bullock — Rushed for 513 yards and three TDs. Missed six games due to injury.
Sophomore Jordan Canzeri — Missed 2012 while rehabbing torn ACL. Has weighed in at 193, up nearly 20 pounds since he arrived at Iowa.
Freshmen Barkley Hill and Michael Malloy — Hill missed ’12 with a torn ACL suffered in an August scrimmage. Malloy nearly had his redshirt pulled. He could be surprise here.
Iowa is also a finalist for LeShun Daniels, a big Ohio prep RB (5-11, 220) who committed to Boston College before it went through a coaching change.
This has nothing to do with running backs, but here’s a piece from QB recruit Nic Shimonek’s hometown newspaper, the Corsicana (Texas) Daily Sun. He’s thrown 96 TDs to just 28 interceptions in his career at Mildred High School.
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No matter the rationale for departure (Garmon is selfish, Davis didn’t adjust to fit Garmon, not a “power back”, position change possibility, grades, etc.) the bottom line is this attrition of talented players must end. period. I could write the next 500 words re-hashing all the players we know have left, but I’ll refrain (BHGP already did).
Iowa barely scoops up top shelf skill players as it is and for a developmental program, it’s beyond devastating. Just look at the current state of the WRs, QBs, Safeties, and D Line. Garmon might not have been a Wegher, Robinson, or Hampton-type out of the gate, but the kid had mad potential, for gosh sakes he’s a TRUE FRESHMAN; He should have had the luxury of a redshirt. And don’t give me this bull about him not being the “prototypical” big back to run the Iowa scheme. Melvin Gordon and James White would like a word. Even look at Damon Bullock and Jordan Canzeri, do they mirror a Mark Weisman or Marcus Coker? And Canzeri is far from a proven commodity.
Sorry Marc, this rant isn’t aimed at you or your viewpoint. I’m wondering just how many days until we see Delano Hill decommit to go along with the DE from Indiana. This is beyond coincidence, I know people try to cling to a logical reason and people articulate that there isn’t one, well why not, something IS going on and some flaw IS creating this. (And yes I understand you have to take it on a case by case basis, not just the sum total, injuries vs. off-field, etc.)
Iowa had a commit from Melvin Gordon and picked De’Andre Johnson over James White. But I think you knew that and that’s your basic point.
I’m not going to speculate where it went wrong. Let’s see where he ends up. I find it odd Iowa has yet to acknowledge his departure.
Case-by-case, not every one of these is a national disaster. The sum total, however, is a team with a twisted roster. I think that’s where Iowa is right now.
John–did you happen to forget that Garmon was basically forced into service at RB this season due to Canzeri’s injury and DeAndre Johnson’s failure to stay out of legal trouble?
The Iowa staff wanted Garmon to redshirt this season..get bigger, faster..learn the offense. Instead, they didn’t have that luxury and had to put him out on the field.
Garmon can whine all he wants that he’s a “scat-back” type of runner and that Iowa is a “power” running offense. That didn’t seem to stop guys like Fred Russell, Damian Sims, and Jordan Canzeri from being able to excel at RB for Iowa. Oh and btw–all of those guys are smaller and shorter than what Garmon is.
Yes, I fully understand Garmon was just a warm body so he got thrown in there. What I meant was that he “should” have been redshirted.
I agree completely with Russell and Sims. Jury is still out on Canzeri for me.
Canzeri has excelled at Iowa? How is that exactly? His stats are 31 rushes for 114 yards (long of 15) versus 38 carries for 122 yards (long of 12)
Marc, do you know or did Garmon ever say why he chose Iowa? The kid had an offer sheet a mile long, he could have gone anywhere. No one else offered as a running back, ala Rodney Coe or AJ Derby (QB promise)? Did everyone else offer Greg Davis as a coffee runner or Non Traditional Grad Assistant and Iowa gave him a shot at Offensive Coordinator?
Iowa offered him as a running back. And you’re right, I think most if not all of his other major offers were as a defensive back or wideout.
I don’t understand your Davis question.
Ah, thanks. Oh sorry, I was being sarcastic regarding Davis. Trying to make a weak analogy about how no other program wanted him as an OC, but rather something else, generally not what he would want. Like Garmon choosing Iowa because he could be a RB and not a DB, something he necessarily jump at.
“something he necessarily wouldn’t jump at” **
I knew you were being sarcastic. Just having some fun!
Mas Casa – 1, Me – 0.. Well played, good sir.
Marc,
Quite frankly, Garmon knew full well when he signed with Iowa that he would have likely redshirted this season to begin with. When he signed, Iowa had Jordan Canzeri and DeAndre Johnson slated as the top two RB’s on the depth chart.
With Canzeri’s injury and Johnson’s departure due failing to stay out of legal trouble, and Hill’s injury—Bullock and Garmon moved to the top of the Iowa depth chart by default. Weisman was penciled in as Iowa’s FB.
After Bullock and Garmon both went down in the UNI game, Mark Weisman showed that he had the ability to be an extremely effective every down back. He had great ball security and had ability to burst through holes made by his blockers. Plus, he was a punishing guy when he hit the second level on cornerbacks and safeties who tried taking him on.
Bullock showed some of that ability as well and did well when he wasn’t injured.
Garmon on the other hand…still was learning about how to run in Iowa’s zone blocking schemes–something to be expected as a pure freshman. That much was clear in watching him play this season.
There were plays where he’d miss the hole created by a lineman, or miss a cutback lane–typical freshman mistakes. Plus, he still had much to learn as a blocker out of the backfield in pass protection.
2012 was supposed to be a learning season for Greg Garmon. If things had gone to plan–he would have been redshirting this year–spending his time learning the Iowa offense and getting bigger, faster and stronger under Chris Doyle’s tutelage.
Instead, he was forced into service in the run game and essentially had to learn on the fly this season.
His decision to transfer–strikes me more as an immature decision being made for selfish reasons. Garmon knew full well what Iowa’s philosophy was in the run game when he signed with Iowa.
So to say that Iowa wasn’t a “good fit” for him–just doesn’t pass the smell test. This looks more and more like a kid who was looking at the depth chart for next season–and decided he didn’t want to do the work it was going to take to earn playing time at RB next season.
Garmon had multiple options he could have taken advantage of to get playing time next season. With his speed and hands, he could have converted to a WR. He also could have been a very effective kickoff/punt returner.
Not to mention that Garmon could have simply redshirted in 2013. If being a RB was what Garmon really wanted to do–he could have used that redshirt year to improve as a player and compete for a starting job in 2014.
Instead, Garmon took the easy way out..and quit. What frustrates me–is that the Iowa coaching staff gave him a full release. At the bare minimum, Ferentz and the Iowa staff should have restricted him from transferring to any other Big Ten school.
Garmon had offers from Illinois, OSU, Michigan and Penn State–all places where Garmon could end transferring to.
Oh whats the saying….once is an accident, twice is a coincidence and now 17 times is a trend.
Our lack of athletes has significantly hurt us (aka 2012) and loosing players like Garmon hurt regardless how you slice it. People bash KF for not playing freshman and now when he does, they still leave! Hmmm….
From what Garmon is saying, he doesn’t even know where he is going! He would rather rip the cord and call it quits before landing somewhere. That in my mind is even worse.
Good luck Garmon, sorry to see you leave my friend.
To me this is a big loss. Without a doubt this was the most talented RB with the most upside that Iowa had. Sure as an 18 year old freshman he didn’t show it because his body just hadn’t had a chance to get prepared for college football. Remember he just arrived in August. Watching him on the sideline and in open practice he seemed like a pretty free spirit. There’s nothing wrong with that but did it fit in with KF’s “No social media allowed” iron fist rule personality. Probably not.
My guess is that Garmon also saw this coaching staff’s unchallengeable loyalty to upperclassman who have already broke into the line up. Would Garmon ever really be given a real chance to pass by Weisman or Bullock even if he had proven himself better? Probably not. I recall KF being very condescending in his comments on Garmon’s performance after the Michigan St. game. Is it just me or does KF treat the more heralded recruits differently and I don’t mean in a good way?
Having said all of this and having had a chance to settle the emotions down after a miserable season. I am back to my Hawkeye optimism and think they will win a lot of games next year because they should have a great offensive line.
Chuck,
So are you saying that just simply because Garmon is a “talented” RB that he should have been getting more playing time over someone like Weisman who was proving that he was an extremely effective RB this season?
Garmon made a LOT of freshman mistakes this year–from missing blocking assignments on blitz pickups, to missing cutback lanes and holes opened by his blockers.
Ferentz’s philosophy ALWAYS has been that the players who are performing the best will see the most playing time–that means at practice and in games.
As for your claims that the Iowa staff has an “unchallengeable loyalty” to upperclassman–you seem to forget that in 2012, Iowa started and played the most freshman so far in Ferentz’s tenure at Iowa.
No, in my mind..this is more about Garmon making a selfish and foolish decision rather than putting in the effort to earn the playing time he wants.
No. I thought I clearly said that he didn’t show how good he was this year because his 18 year body was not yet prepared. But he had a great upside and had the potential to pass up Weisman. There can be no argument that Weisman gets more yards after contact than any of the other backs, But there also can be no argument that the other backs are more of a homerun threat.
Here is the thing…fans clamore about 80 yard Td’s. When consistent hard running is more important. We dont know what Greg could accomplish and he took that decision out of the equation, but we do NOT know he had more upside or more potential and in fact all you are basing tht on is his 4 star ranking and and a reported 40 time and some high school highlight tape, right?!
I mean we could just as easily say out of 50 offers only us and maybe a few others offered him as an Rber?! That too could be telling. Now here is the cool thing about psychology and framing our points…one could say if KF saw him as a Rber then his GREAT recruiting and talent evaluation skills suggest something…the problem is, many of these same people suggest he doesnt know how to recruit. Thats why I marvel about what gets said on these boards. People say whats convienent without ever evaluating what they have said before or what is really true or really likely.
Based on what I know…..Greg Garmon has more upside than over the half the Rbers in the NFL because they were walk-ons, 2 stars and 3 stars and he was a four star. If you can’t see and then hit the hole and then break through it it does not matter how fast you are.
With that said I wished he’d stayed, but I did not think he’d stay at Rber if he did.
Chad
Maybe Garmon’s move is selfish, but clearly the most selfish member of the Iowa football family is the head man, Grandpa Ferentz himself. He takes the money and won’t listen to anybody about anything. He won’t admit his mistakes, even the ones that he makes year after year and that have been well documented. He refuses to put an entertaining, let alone winning offense on the field, except by accident.
There are many ways to lose. When you watch an entertaining style of play, when you see a team take intelligent risks, when you see a coaching staff adapt to the talents of its athletes, when you see fire in the eyes of every coach and every player every game, when games are managed intelligently by coaches and played intelligently by the athletes, then you have a football program to be proud of. The win-loss thing takes care of itself.
That’s all Iowa fans want. We want to know everyone did everything to win every game, because then, despite what’s on the scoreboard, despite the money we spent, we can feel proud of our program and mean it when we say, “It’s GREAT to be a Hawkeye!”
Is that too much to ask?
Cant support that Sanji. Been watching your posts for awhile now. Selfish is what you are when you get all up in arms and make rash statements on a message board with about 5% of the info needed to make such claims.
If you watch enuff football, youll see KF is still MORE of the same to most if not all of the coaches out there. Your last statement says it all…as a human being, and one I hope and think is in the upper echeleon of my profession I know that I and my charges dont always perform our best and in fact I wonder how often any of us REALLY DO…but you would selfIshly demand that of KF and 18-23 year old men when you cant even honestly do the same…thats the heighth of being selfish.
cHAD
Sanji…
More whining about Ferentz…if there’s anything that’s predictable..its you whining about Ferentz.
As far as true goes, the above is……now to be fair it is indeed possible KF can’t get us back out of this hole, it has happened in every business to many a Good coach and manger. However what people say is truly mind boggling. Makes you think they dont really watch the game or at least know what they are really seeing.
Chad
Okay this is too much for me to avoid…..
I am really disgusted about the season. I don’t get what’s wrong and I actually changed the way I watched Iowa games this year as a result and heck maybe it’s my fault. I did ask the Lord to help me not be so overwhelmed and passionate about football and here we are…..:-)… I also quit posting at all anywhere but this endless ranting about nothing drives me insane.
Iowa blitzed more this year than they ever have. (They’ve always blitzed a little more than our fans can seem to admit) They played lots of nickel and lots of dime packages, they played tons of kids all over the field including DL…all things the fans said we needed to do to win…lol Right…?!?! All we did is tackle worse and give up more big plays than ever….
On offense…we needed a new OC, ours was too predictable…….Less predictable, more horizontal passing, spreading the field, etc. and it was puking sick…now ironically our new OC is too predictable. Here is what is convenient and a “trend”….something doesn’t work it’s the OC and “too predictable”…the problem is fan base to fan base same silly diagnosis.
Garmon clearly has more talent and upside….really?! We are one of the very few to offer him as a Rber. And comparing him to JAMES White and Melvin Gordon is terrible…White is 5-11 and 197, Gordon is 6-1 and 206 and both look like and run like Rbers…Garmon did not. Sure it’s fair to ask if we used him right, but when he really struggled with what we did do and we got him in space as well as we could considering our miserable passing game and what not, I’m not trying to pen this on anyone other than he wasn’t ready.
We always play upper classmen…come’on that is so predictable it’s maddening. We do NOT. I’m actually in shock with how many frosh have hit the field in recent years. I’m hopeful eventually they’ll turn into players…
Now we don’t recruit well. Most observers have actually suggested Iowa has recruited better at least via the Rankings in recent years so if you are saying the opposite then maybe in actuality we should recruit more 2 stars like we used to…obviously that sounds moronic, but the logic fits as well as anyone saying the opposite.
We have honestly had better skill players in recent years (not this year) for the most part than earlier so again, not a really sound observation…..our best Wrs and some pretty solid Big 10 Rbers have played in recent years. And our best QB has been Stanzi.
This losing players crap is just that…it literally happens everywhere constantly AND YES I know the mantra…… that’s an excuse and I’m an apologist…the problem is if it’s true it’s true and check around. I asked Texas fans last off season when our fan base was up in arms…they suggested they’d lost 12 at minimum last off season. And before you say we aren’t Texas, neither are they….5-7, 7-5 and 8-4 the last 3 years with some heinous blowouts and more 4 and 5 stars than anyone in the country….USC same deal.
The Truth is Iowa is in a major rut…a significant, major unexplainable rut and it is possible KF can’t get us out this time.
But it isn’t because he is stubborn nor because he is too loyal or can’t identify talent or the game has passed him by or any of the other ridiculous, poorly conceived silliness I have seen bandied about by Iowa fans for a couple years.
These same Iowa fans told me how great Wiscy and MSU were and here they are 7-5 needing a coach and 6-6.
I’ll wait and see, so should you.
Now does anyone know where this Hill rumor comes from and does it have legs?! Or is it just Iowa fans being Iowa fans…
Chad
Here is an honest sincere question. Did anyone really watch Garmon this year and say this is a recruit we cant live without? Don’t read extra into what I’m saying. I liked the kid and I too like 4 stars, for a different reason than most of you though. I don’t think we have to sign a bunch of four star recruits. There is like what 250 of them a year and its pretty much proven only about 50% of then turn out and there are now 120 D1 teams…..but it does come with a certain amount of cache and excitement and I do enjoy that to a degree. But I can truly say I enjoy the walk-on/2 star stories better….and it’s the 3 stars that are the back bones that these teams are built on. Iowa is actually recruiting quite well all things considered and really people are upset because he was a “4-star” not because of what he has done. Mark Weisman is right now clearly way better of a Rber and as most of the really bright football guys I know will tell you reading the play, hitting the hole & gaining yards after contact are infinitely more important than 80 yard Td’s!
Finally it’s interesting to me that we are crushed and I’m part of the we, yet I ran into an ISU fan at the dealership a few days back wearing an Iowa sweatshirt and he tells me ISU had a good season…They went 6-6 again, they beat a bad Iowa team by three, they are now 12-24 in conference over the last 4 years of PR’s reign and they are honestly Iowa lite….solid D, highly inconsistent O and as a team inconsistent quarter to quarter play to play and yet his 2 mill per year is money well spent…he is just one example of 50. It’s a tuff game to stay on top as Texas knows and OU once again, lost out on a NC bid…they are ready to run Bob off too.
Chad
Gee, Chad, three comments in a row. Might be a record. I tend to disagree about the loss of “talent” in this case. Greg Garmon did not show me much last year. I never saw him break a long one, inside or outside, and his speed did not seem to match up to the defenses he saw each week, either. He did not break many tackles or run away from much of anyone. Maybe he needed the redshirt year and did not get it, or maybe- just maybe- he does not have the chops for Big Ten play. If so, he might as well get out now. There is a crowded house at RB on this team with three guys that have shown more than he has (Bullock, Weisman and Canzeri in his limited action. I saw real potential in the Oklahoma debacle after Coker was bounced). The kid will go to Southern Illinois, or Stony Brook or Minnesota-Duluth like some other guys I could name, and may have a nice little career there. It just won’t be here. Good luck, Greg. This wasn’t AIRBHG, it was buyer’s remorse.
I doubt its a record Paul, for me in particular…:-)…with that said, I do agree we have no clue about his talent or supposed upside. Right now from what I saw he clearly isn’t as good as Weisman or Bullock and there really wasn’t anything to suggest he would be. Im not saying he couldn’t have been but no one saw anything other than a star ranking they said he would be. Fans get blinded by publicity very, very easily.
Chad
The biggest sin this program commits is the one Todd Lickliter committed: He played boring ball. Booooooooring! The present Hawkeye football team could put a caffeinated chihuahua to sleep with the product they put on the field. If I were not a Hawkeye myself, I would not waste the energy to change the channel from Alabama-West Texas College of Pharmacy game to see that brand of “football”. Once again: Boooooooring! Garmon would likely prefer any other kind.
Honesly Paul thats just not true. I get that you are frustarted but it is “loisng” that is boring……why do people keep trying to pretend like Iowas offese is different than about 50 other teams, it isn’t!!!
Wisconsins exciting offense scored, 21-14-13 and 7 in losses this year and 16 in a win vs Utah St?!?! I’m not trying to be rammy here either but seriously Iowas offense this year was absoluetly heinous, but in a terrible year, that by the way was still a lot different than last years “boring/predictable O” we scored under 20, 5 times. Iowa State however…you know exciting, juggernaut that they are…. they scored under 20, 4 times.
The point being, we say things like “predictable” and boring, when what we mean is ineffective. Iowas offense isnt boring, it sucks, plain and simple!
Chad
PS….Same goes with Lickliter….that offense was and is ran all over and its beautiful when you win. But we fans call it “boring”…why do we do that? We don’t like it because we are LOSING……people that are winning think its great!!
I will not shed a tear over Garmon leaving but it infuriates me that we continue to have a skills mismatches. In my mind he is an example of how screwed up the coaching and recruiting has been for the last several years. Recruiting has, and will be the single most reason we will stay in the middle of whatever realigned B1G divisional pack they put us in. Imho, Ferentz’ 2008 recruiting class was so poor to mediorcre that this year would have been a miracle at 6-6. Is that partially because that jerk Kaczenski left KNOWING he did a crappy recruiting job and he didn’t want his name associated with the team? I am NO fan of Davis either and unless he gets Ferentz to agree to changing the offense we will be last in the stats of offense in the B1G for years to come. A new offense you say? We know that’s not going to happen. Let’s bring KOK back and be glad we are in a major conference and if the stars align pull a co-championship out of our you-know-what every 8-12 years…at least he could recruit a little better than what we have now. Next year’s QB competition will be entertaining to see who can understand the mind (read: playcalling) of Davis and execute when calling plays. Obviously NO ONE got it this year or they’d have been on the field at some point. There are so many problems with this team, my expectations continue to get lowered when I see the attrition and the lack of talented commits on defense and speed on offense. Our Hawkeyes will not be all that exciting for awhile and we’d better get used to it. A multi-million dollar buy-out is not in the cards and he won’t fire his coaches either. So, here we are, Hawkeye Fans! Stuck in the middle of the pack for a long, long time. NW, Indiana, and Purdue will continue to make a bid deal about beating us and it will further push into the middle.
Its interesting to me when you can find in the very same thread people regurgitating the same over arching point that multiple people have already refuted..proving they arent reading, only ranting about the same untrue things over and over and over again….
Here is were we agree….
This team has some issues and they are somewhere enternal for sure. I don’t think they are unfixable, but they may be hard to really identify all the same.
We can also agree 2008 did nt turn into a super class however there were some decent kids that left who would have helped us for sure.
Here is where we don’t agree and it is so blatant its hard to take anything else seriously…….
Iowa’s offense was clearly different this year and if you didnt see that, then I guess having an actual football discussion would be silly. The screen game, horizontal passing and spreading the field stuff (that OUR fans clamored for) replaced the down field passing game and it was OBVIOUS. So too say KF didn’t “let” Davis change anything is abslouley assinine. I want it changed BACK! In fact what Davis did do well was calling the running game, it was still similarywith some shot gun, misdirection wrinkels.
Also by most accounts, per star rankings our classes have actually improved and if you go by “forty” times we have been siging very speedy classes for several years and our Defensive recruits have routinely be our best per accolades.
So I agree our on field results suck, but your reasoning is baffling and quite frankly I and others have said this multiple times in this very thread yet you reposted the same thing…why?!
Chad
I just checked the dictionary under “football god” and Chad McCleary’s name was not there. Thus, other peoples opinions on football are still allowable. I really didn’t think my opinion was that controversial. I was only stating that I think loosing another young running back with potential is a bad thing for the program. My “personal opinion” is that Garmon had potential. My “personal opinion” is that we do need a change up to go with Weisman, And maybe Bullock already fills that role. But as we have seen he is prone to injury and given another year or two in the weight room I thought Garmon had the “potential” to surpass those ahead of him in the depth chart. Am I entitled to that opinion. It’s the USA so I think I am.
I don’t think it’s good as a fan to be 100% negative that is why I always try to throw in something positive in my comments, which I did. I the Hawks will have a surprising season next year. But at the same time it is not a sin to show displeasure with the direction of the program. If you just blindly show support for the program regardless of results you are indirectly condoning mediocrity. Can you say “Chicago Cubs”.
This running back departure is beyond coincidence. Even though the Hawks do almost always seem to come up with a descent RB. It is rarely the weak link of the team. The 12-17 record in the last 29 games is more than a bad year.
All I am saying is that when we manage to recruit a good athlete lets find a way to best use them and lets find a way to keep them.
I personally think “calling me a football G……” is kind of a silly rebuttal but the team does stink thats we can agree on….but to tell you the Truth. I am so shocked and dismayed by this Connecticut thing that it seems beyond petty to be arguing about whether or not KF knows what he is on a message blog.
Iowa has issues but this stuff seems to happen twice monthly now a days and it shook me so bad I bawled out loud. Hopefully Iowa gets it figured out, but its really dumb to get so bothered by it and Im going back into hiding,
Merry Christmas and may God Bless you all this Holiday season.
Chad McCleary
Just turned on the news. There are more important things than Iowa Football that I am in total agreement with you Chad.
Chad;
Thank you and well stated….
“Merry Christmas and may God Bless you all this Holiday season.