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Ferentz radio — Mushroom cloud


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Iowa Hawkeyes head coach Kirk Ferentz talks with Penn State Nittany Lions head coach Bill O'Brien before their college football game Saturday, Oct. 20, 2012 at Kinnick Stadium in Iowa City. (Brian Ray/The Gazette-KCRG)

Caller 1: Knows Iowa won’t buyout Kirk Ferentz. Calls for him to resign.

Caller 2: Wants to know why No. 2 QB Jake Rudock didn’t go into the game in the fourth quarter. Very disappointed.

And we’re off. Gary Dolphin takes it all in stride. Wouldn’t be shocked if Ferentz heard the first calls and turned around the Suburban.

Dolph says lots of RB Mark Weisman and RB Damon Bullock, who seems to be making a nice rebound from the recurrence of concussion symptoms he suffered in the run-up to Michigan State.

Caller 3: Why does Penn State look like the Patriots with an entirely new offense? (My answer would be decent recruits from old staff, better coaching from new staff.)

TOMMY! Why isn’t Quinton Alston playing? KF: James Morris.

KF on Rudock: Best thing for football team, in his opinion, was to play the starters.

Dolph asks KF about tape: Feeling-wise, felt like the Arizona State game in ’04. “We did not play well. . . . They played as well as I’ve seen them play. . . . We never got started in anything.”

Marilyn from CR: Didn’t like the boos. Biggest recruiting weekend, what kind of impact for recruits to hear that? Makes it doubly sad for me. Admires KF’s strength. Glad assistants don’t talk to media (sad face, Marilyn).

KF: I didn’t hear the booing. Did hear some cheering at the end. People stayed. Our fans are unparalleled. There’s going to be some booing. I trust the recruits understand that. We haven’t had too many games like that at Kinnick. Small group regrettable words for Penn State. You have to admire what they [Penn State] is doing.

Mike from Bettendorf: How do you watch football on TV? (I like this question.)

For KF: It depends on what I’m watching, for former Iowa players or entertainment. He starts with line play. Shows a lot of how a game might go.

Caller: Why short passes? KF: Place for that to get guys off your back. If you watch football, interesting how many passes go down field.

Caller: I don’t mean to be too critical . . . not fast, athletic, no pass rush, no blitz, not good QB, no innovative offense . . . Don’t seem to be getting better. Not good at recruiting. Not good WR. Future doesn’t look bright.

KF: Hope you have a better day tomorrow. You look at it differently than we do. I hope we can put a smile on your face in weeks and years.

Dolph brings up NFL draftees. KF adds that he’s proud of the players, but they got whupped and no one is making excuses.

Caller: Attrition. Critical to keep kids, problems the last few years (actually, it’s slowed).

KF: Lots of reasons on that front. RB multitude of things. Academics, conduct. Try to be thorough in recruiting. Nothing fool-proof. Underclass recruiting, don’t know the prospects as well as ones you recruited through senior year.

Caller: Who’s QB coach? Vandenberg form is horrible?I sure hope the Cleveland Browns are buzzing your phone, because it’s time for you to go.

Mushroom cloud.

KF: Comes with territory. Comes when you lose.

Wow. I’ve been listening to this show for 14 years. I’ve never heard that kind of cowardly disrespect. Sports aren’t for everyone. Just wow.

Stephanie: She was a gymnast in the ’80s at Iowa. She’s glad her performance wasn’t responsible for the morale of the state, Iowa City and UI. Glad when she fell that she didn’t get booed. Really broke my heart hearing the calls, she said.

She actually stopped her car and drove into Carlo O’Kelly’s to get on the mic and let her feelings be known. Impressive. KF said he would buy her family dinner.

BTW, KF did say he’s hopeful for Weisman and Bullock. Nothing definitive.

That’s it for this week. Tune in next week for what I’m sure will be Gary Dolphin reading the Cascade phonebook.

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Ferentz radio — Mushroom cloud
  1. Yikes….I’ll admit that after we lost to CMU I tossed a few f-bombs on Facebook about how Ferentz should take his $ and go. But after the dust settles, you realize he’s right for Iowa. However, the 3 year runs of mediocrity are much more difficult to swallow when he’s making nearly $4MM. He’s a great representative and when he’s got both lines working well, we can compete with anyone. That’s not the case currently, and it’s frustrating.

    • I think honestly if Ferentz only made $2 million a year, fans wouldn’t be going all unruly mob on the guy and put down their pitchforks. It’s perfectly understandable to have high expectations when you make $4 million-ish a year. Especially when coaces such as Chris Peterson, Pat Fitzgerald, Mark Dantonio, and Bill Snyder are making less than $2 million.

      My only question is does Iowa have to over pay coaches? We’re not exactly a recruiting hotspot or have the legacy of a Michigan or Texas. I think we ultimately have to pay more for less because of some of those factors. However, the theory that, “Well, Paul Rhoads does more with less money than Ferentz” is debatable at best. Look at their overall record with Rhoads, it’s not amazing, but maybe 5 years down the road it does become better, who knows.. All I know is bottom line, Gary Barta made the business decision to keep Ferentz around with that contract and that folks is on him.

      The only thing that does really irk me with this staff is the label of “developing players.” Taking that classic MAC only offer sheet guy and having him become a starter in a few years (KMM). You know, that’s great and all, but how good would we be gettingmore of those stud guys and starting with a guy that has a higher ceiling? And yes, the usual caveat applies about those guys being busts (Dan Doering), but statistically if you have more of those guys on the team, it’s gonna pan out. Where art thou Cyrus Kouandjio?

      And at the end of the day, this staff can tout “Putting guys in the NFL.” Big whoop, who cares, I’m over it, I’d rather have a program that WINS COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAMES, because we are in DIVISION 1 COLLEGE FOOTBALL, than pride itself on feeding talents into the NFL.

  2. I’m all for the Cap’n staying in charge.

    This 3 year run doesn’t look like it will run out of steam very soon. Keep it going for sure.

    But he is a good representative. Of something.

    And that, in the end, is most important.

  3. I think some people take sports a wee bit too seriously…..

    Quick question: Is Ferentz contractually obligated to do the call in show? Not sure if I would subject myself to that if I was a coach to be honest if I didn’t have to….

  4. Everyone seems short on memory when 2005-2008 weren’t the glory years. Coming off of the Big 10 Titles and the Orange Bowl appearance, and then it turned around. KF knows whos ready and whos not, and Ruddock probably isn’t ready yet and would hurt the team more help. If anyone expected more than 8 wins out of this group then they didn’t size up the competition and was already being fitted for the National Champion t-shirt.

    • Glory years? So one pretty good and one great season out of the last 8 is OK? Meanwhile, late-game collapses, repeated game-changing special teams errors, and inconsistent “execution” is completely acceptable to you (even when we CLEARLY have experience and talent to win far more than 7 -8 games)? Losses to double-digit underdogs (even at HOME) is fine and dandy?

      Sorry, I have higher standards than that – especially since it’s been done before. It doesn’t make me a bad or crazy fan – it just means I CARE about the program and have concern for its long-range success based on its current trajectory.

    • Andrew:

      By the way, the snarky comment about “National Champion” t-shirt shows your aloofness to the situation. No one has mentioned that at all – but I guess if you don’t really have anything relevant to rebut other posts with I guess you can always throw that out there. If you have actually watched and studied the issues being discussed then you would have something more to contribute to it = which everyone would welcome, no matter what side of the aisle you may fall.

      • Mike, I think Andrew’s point was skewed expectations for this year’s addition.

        Iowa goes into Saturday down two OL and with the top two RBs nursing injuries.

        This roster is more broken than any of us realized, IMO.

        • Marc:

          First, agree about the cowardice about talk radio tough guys. Thought I had mentioned it previously but saw I didn’t.

          As for the Andrew’s comment: yes, I realize it’s about his claim of skewed expectations. However, Andrew’s response of KF supporters is just as tired and lazy of KF criticizers who bring up nothing but his contract. You’re right – the record could probably be better considering the investment but it’s not going to change so people need to elevate other arguments and push this to the background. I don’t know of ANYONE who predicted great things (9-3 was as high as I saw ANYONE predicting this preseason), so his comment rubbed me the wrong way.

          Finally: “By refusing to give real info and to continue to bury specifics in the “general,” he’s only digging himself a deeper hole. He’s becoming less and less credible when it comes to talking about . . . Iowa football. Sounds weird, but how many people have tuned him out now?” THAT IS PERFECT! (and sad!)

          For the JVB link about being the only D1 QB to take every snap: try BHGP. I believe I ran across it there.

          • Thanks, Mike. I’ll go looking for it.

            And you’re right, there are more meaningful complaints. Like how this offense didn’t fit the sitting QB. It doesn’t and now, going into game 8, the question is can it?

    • Why don’t you explain how putting in the back up QB when you are down by 31 points in the fourth quarter could possibly hurt the team? You do know that Vandenberg is a senior and won’t be back next year. So in 2013 we start a brand new QB with zero experience and then we have a built in excuse because the new guy is still learning the offense. Great! I get to look forward to another dismal year. The downward spiral continues. Meanwhile, teams that we used to readily handle, like Northwestern, feature much more talented offensive players than we do year after year and routinely beat us both home and away. If you look at the list of the highest paid college coaches, we are the only school that is not even remotely getting our moneys worth.

      • Yeah, the salary argument. It’s time to move on from that. You’re not going to change it. Contract is signed through 2020. It’s $250,000 a month through 2020 if Iowa fired KF today. The seat is golden, not hot.

        It’s just going to frustrate you. You can’t buy a national title, Legends Division title or Big Ten title.

        Rudock isn’t ready to play right now, he says. I don’t see practice, so I can’t verify where Rudock is in his development. Does that automatically translate into him being sub-par for next season? No, there’s a lot of development that can happen, but I won’t fault your logic here. Sub-par is a reasonable conclusion.

        Good post.

        • I sympathize with the fan base’s sentiments regarding salary and I agree Marc, that it’s not going to change, Barta sealed the deal on that aspect. We spent money for a Ferrari, but when the crate arrived from Italy, it contained a Fiat.

          • “We spent money for a Ferrari, but when the crate arrived from Italy, it contained a Fiat.”

            HA HA! That there’s funny, I don’t care who ya are!

  5. With all due respect to Kirk and Dolph, this sounded pretty tough but I can think of 10 or more college programs that this kind of call-in show, after that kind of game, for coach on this kind of run, would be pretty standard. You don’t want to know what the John L. Smith call-in show was like for the first 4 weeks. You don’t want to know what the Holgorsen call-in shows was like this week. Get the picture?

    A Kirk’s been discussed for pro openings, right? Rex Ryan did a press conference after losing to the Patriots, on the road, in which his WR dropped a ball right in his hands with no one within 5 yards of him that basically cost his team the game. The Jets were 10-point underdogs too, and the press–the NYC press–not fans mind you, but professionals he sees week to wee were every bit as ruthless with him as these callers sounded. They were more eloquent, but the take no prisoners questions were essentially identical.

    I think Kirk does himself no favors at press conferences and if he did then he could build a firewall to protect him from these moments. For example, he never “sells,” he never does PR for his decisions and game calls like the more high profile coaches. That Rudock snub is indefensible. Iowa is the ONLY team in all of FBS college football to have played one (1) QB this season. We’re not starting Johnny Unitas, yet one guy.

    I realize Kirk’s the anti-version of Urban Meyer, and on many levels I like that, but now you know why Meyer and other coaches at more hotbed football factories are out in front of moments like these. I find Kirk too often, especially for Iowa, acts peevish at the thought that he even has to answer ANY questions, so this call-in show is good for him. He does, at the end of the day, work for the people of Iowa. It’s a state university, it is funded by the citizens. People pay for football tickets, they’re not free. There is a relationship here. He doesn’t have a job without the people. He just doesn’t. And, this show is one of the many reasons he’s the highest paid employee in the state. I’m sure he can manage the show.

    • Pete:

      Points off for basically saying it’s OK to take cheap shots anonymously on a call-in show. The call-in show vehicle does, however, open the door to such exchanges and, harrumph, they are entertaining. Doesn’t make it right. I stand by the coward statement.

      Points for the KF peevishness. He has talked about being bullet-proof. He’s not. By refusing to give real info and to continue to bury specifics in the “general,” he’s only digging himself a deeper hole. He’s becoming less and less credible when it comes to talking about . . . Iowa football. Sounds weird, but how many people have tuned him out now?

      Half point for the people paying for tickets and such.

      No, Iowa athletics doesn’t use taxpayer money. It does, however, use your money. If people are dissatisfied with the product, the most damaging action they can take is stop paying for season tickets. Vote with your feet, not anonymously on a call-in show. If you keep paying, you’re running an inside zone into an eight-man front with your wallet. Simple logic.

      I need to look up the stat about Iowa being the only school in the country to play one QB. If you have a link on that, please share it.

      Excellent post, even though I don’t agree with some of it.

  6. This is good stuff.

    Everyone is frustrated. I appreciate your articulation. It challenges me to see things from different angles. Thank you for that.

    Call-in show is a flawed vehicle. It’s also the only one that’s been examined. It’s also a sponsored event and that’s really where the thinking stops, when the check clears.

    KF has to take it. Does he lose sleep over it? I doubt it. Can he handle it better? Definitely. Still, I’m not sure at this point if a little candidness would satisfy the mad mob. Answer questions. If Rudock isn’t ready, say it. If you don’t trust a redshirt freshman QB, say it. People can classify that. Filing everything in the general only starts the fire anymore.

    The salary complaint. It’s wasted energy. It’s an easy target. It’s a signed contract no one can touch.

    The roster is ill. That shows up in depth and special teams. Everyone’s expectations for 2012 needed to be set back two games from the jump.

    Will it get better? Iowa has a chance to be stronger and more mature on the LOS next season. It will have to develop a QB. Two QBs drafted since 1992 is a statement on the program. Can Iowa send QBs to the NFL on a semi-regular basis? Is that what it’s going to take for Iowa to make the leap?

    I have to get busy on Northwestern. Food for thought.

    • Honest question: If not for the contract lock and if Ferentz had the disposition and likability of let’s say, Bo Pelini, and we finish 6-6 or worse (which is plausible), is he still here next season?

      • If he would be ousted, could the 3 Gazetteer’s be HC and Coordinator’s? Upgrade!

        • Yes, he would be.

          The ’09 run and the Orange Bowl win aren’t that long ago.

          • And thanks! You’d have us fired after one practice!

          • haha would be entertaining atleast!

            We might just agree to disagree on Ferentz. Obviously, you have significantly more insight than I do, but I just look at record from the ’05 season to current. Also, I think the 2010 season still has a bad taste in many fans’ mouths. Simplistically, Michigan St. is having that season now.

            Rationale: ’05 – (7-5), ’06 – (6-7; 2-6 BIG), ’07 – (6-6; no bowl), ’08 – (9-4), ’09 – (11-2), ’10 – (8-5), ’11 (7-6), ’12 – (4-3).

            Overall: (58-38) .604. If you take out ’08 and ’09 it’s (38-32) .542

            I guess for me you basically have one outstanding year (’09) and 2 solid/above avg. years record wise (’08/’10), but 5 bad/mediocre years (including ’12). You essentially have a good run from the latter part of ’08 through the ’09 season and haven’t had atleast a share of the Big Ten title since 2004. I just don’t see the return on investment, IMHO.

          • John, couldn’t agree more. I have said many times that 2010 is the year that would be the undoing of kf(if there would be one contract not withstanding). People can live with a 3 years of mediocrity but it should come on the heals of two out of 3 years of great success. Say 10 or more wins. 2010 10 wins should have been the bottom for that team.

            However, IMO if Iowa could easily get out of kf’s contract I wouldn’t. At least not yet. People like to point to the contract and compare it to the $ urban or Saban make as if we could get that caliber of coach. Simply not true. Many reasons I.e. tradition, recruiting grounds, larger fan bases make those jobs lucrative to the pinnacle coaches. Do you think they’d take the Indiana job for $6m a year? Highly unlikely.

            That said, the results should be better for the investment I just think expectations should be tempered.

  7. OK, KF contract does include radio/TV money.

    Learfield pays him $150,000 for the radio.

    Yeah, you could call me a lot of things for $150K.

  8. - Vandy’s efficiency rating is a Big Ten-worst 103.91, which leaves fewer than five starting quarterbacks in the country with a worse rating.
    - Of all 124 FBS team, just one has yet to give its backup quarterback any type of in-game repetitions: Iowa. Vandenberg has taken all 461 offensive snaps for the Hawkeyes, leaving backup Jake Rudock on the sidelines. Every other team in the NCAA’s FBS has used two or more listed quarterbacks over the course of the 2012 season.

    http://www.dailyiowan.com/2012/10/23/Sports/30475.html

    • How big is ruduck? On tv he doesn’t look more than a 180. Maybe the are worried about his physical health. Not a good omen for next year

  9. I really liked the gymnast’s point, from which I extrapolate: if your self-esteem depends on watching 20 year-olds dominate other 20 year-olds, perhaps it’s time to get a life. Turn off the TV and go for a 10 mile hike or something.

    In regard to pivoting from KF’s salary to holding his feet to the fire for creating 10 win seasons: half of this is envy, which is always ugly, and half of it is mistaken: he’s not a salesman who came into a company with a big guarantee and a personal promise to beat quota by 200%. He’s paid that much to fund the rest of the athletic department, which will fall apart if he leaves and the next hire performs like a Lickleiter. Any anger might better be directed at Title IX and the obligation Iowa has to fund 95% of its athletic programs with the proceeds from one or two. It is this fact that creates the salary escalation.

    Last, if a person is walking through life damaged because we didn’t get our 3 hours of happy time on the most recent Saturday, is that person any different than the noisy people who will just never shut up about politics and the perceived injustice of not getting one’s way with every single political issue of the moment? Is that person someone who perhaps worships the wrong things?

    Ferentz can be his own worst enemy, and I dislike the defensiveness, the lack of public reflection (while accepting the duty of reflecting in public, e.g., this radio program), and the information-free zone that he seems to think is important to create. He’s a good guy who is causing people like me to tune out, because it’s just a waste of time to listen.

    On the QBs, Gales is right. I would ask KF why he discarded his practice from the early 00′s of always giving his #2 QBs a series in the first half and second, sometimes one each quarter, to groom them. I believe Banks, Chandler and Tate were all rotated into games, as preparation and injury insurance. I do not think we’re asking Rudock or any other QB to be Aaron Rodgers — just take a few snaps and get used to the noise and tumult. I do not think that, if Rudock is unready now, he’ll be ready in a year simply because he stares at film and practices in the spring. I’ve never seen that work anywhere. I don’t know why we would run a college offense that a kid can’t learn in a year or two, or why we can’t recruit guys who are physically able to hand off or read a safety or throw a five yard out. It’s really strange that we are the only team in the country that doesn’t need to prepare a second QB, can’t prepare a second QB, or forgets to prepare a second QB. It’s just really strange.

    But it’s KF’s team and it’s my time. We each get to manage our own spheres. There’s a lot I can do with my life besides throw stuff at the TV. This is what Ferentz is risking, particularly given the alternative approach (passion, personal interaction, big game success) that Rhoads brings. If Ferentz doesn’t care, fine, but he’s toying with his gravy train by not caring — which, given the fiscal necessity of a successful and popular football team (to all the other sports), means he’s toying with Barta’s ability to manage his 20 sports. I wish we had a much stronger AD, someone who (like Brandon) has a supervisory relationship with his coach. Bump and Bowlsby were much larger presences, with Hayden and Ferentz. I don’t see that at Iowa now. That, organizationally and potentially financially, is a much bigger problem than Ferentz sounding like a talking point robot on his radio shows and in his press conferences.

    • S-D I, two points i like that you make. Barta does appear to lack an gravitas and that doesn’t help matters. now that kirk is THE elder statesman (norm is gone, and even KOK) who feels big boy enough to stand up to kirk and tell him his ideas are flawed? kirk has abandoned a lot of really good ideas from his most successful period here, which is a shame. He’s scaled back to production line hyper efficiency and the product looks more and more off the rack.




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