kick all of them off the team. free education worth 100k and they piss on it.
let em go and pay their own way. yea I know anyone can get in trouble but when you are on a full ride and playing major college sports you had better be smart enough to stay out of trouble. no wonder we have a average team.

Same old story- just a different year and different names. This is why the Hawkeyes wil never get to the top level because of the lack of discipline shown from these player’s decisions.

I’m sorry but both you guys are idiots! If that were the case then no college team in the world would ever win! These are college students….not grown up adults. Students party…and drink not a big shocker. Should he have been smarter yes. But to say he should be kicked off the team is pure idiotic. But I’m sure you never drank in college.

Please point out to me what “top level” program doesn’t have these issues?

All right, chill.

Two sides to every story. We’ll get more on this soon.

Unrealistic to think there will never be an alcohol-related arrest in any season of college football. It’s not a realistic expectation.

Let’s take it easy on this from here on out. Hyde’s never had any trouble. Keep that in mind.

Exactly Marc,

We don’t know all the details here and Steve, perhaps you’ve heard of the term “presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law”?

The “in a bar after 10 pm” ticket is “let’s make money off the students” offense that the Iowa City City Council dreamt up to “combat binge drinking”.

Oh and Steve..if you’re going to “kick them all out” for a 1st offense…you’re quite frankly completely and utterly delusional. Steve, I just love how the holier than thou crowd like yourself starts calling for heads when stuff like this happens.

hey Ben, I am going to give you a 100K free money and all I ask is you keep your studies up and get a average GPA , you dont owe me a thing back. If you can not do that then dont accept the deal, If you decide to not hold up your end of the deal. you need to pay every last nickel back so I can give someone else the same deal. any questions? Whose the idiot here?

Shouldn’t we be at least a little concerned about the fact that Iowa’s starting CB and punt returner couldn’t outrun a ploice officer? Geesh.

here we go again…….unreal………

Minimum one game, very disappointing that a senior leader didn’t make the right choices here. No need to throw ANYONE off the team.

Players should have realized ICPD and City Council are all about the headlines nowadays in their “fight” against underage and binge college drinking. The days of a phone call to the position coach and a wink are LONG GONE.

Come on coaches. This happens every year and every bye week. Can’t wait to see who was arrested tonight….

Well Terry, I’m pretty sure he is keeping up with his studies
and keeping his GPA up. So according to your standards he is
keeping up with his end of the deal. Oh and FYI Terry…it’s “who’s”….not “whose”

I want to apologize to Steve and Dean. My emotions got the best of me, I should not have called them idiots.

But saying he should be kicked off the team for his first offense and when
he is over 21 is a little bit overboard! Everyone makes mistakes, we learn from them and that is what makes us better, by learning from those mistakes. I agree with Lori that our student athletes should be held to a higher level BUT let’s just remember these players are still “kids” and they will do dumb things. But we shouldn’t call for there heads over it. Kids will be kids….even D1 college athletes.

He really DOES need to sit at least one game. If he doesn’t, we look worse than the thugs we’ll be playing next weekend.

Sometimes I think it is us, the fans ,whose perspective gets skewed.
Every time this comes up the comments are the same, “he gets a free education and he —— it up because he can’t follow the rules,” “they are just kids and everyone who is in college drinks too much…” “the coaches should be able to keep their team under control” “it is the city council… they just want to make headlines.”
There is no doubt that the athletes are at fault here, they knew the rules and they broke them. No one should make excuses for them in the sense that when the rules are clear and have been explained clearly there is no reason for making the decision to break them. A college athlete should be of an age that he can understand that it is not a good idea to drink until after his senior season is over.
That said, I would like to look at this incident based on the premise of the relationship between responsibility and authority. In most areas of life increased responsibility comes with increased authority, meaning that as children grow into adults larger amounts of responsibility are given to them – hopefully added gradually as the individual grows to handle the additional work. In addition to this, we generally give the individual an increasing amount of life choices that he or she is allowed to make on their own behalf. Usually this ability to increasingly make his or her own choices is directly proportionate to the amount of responsibility that an individual is given.
Enter the college football player.
As fans, we have elevated the sport of football to such a level that we will spend large amounts of money for tickets, tailgating, cable packages. We buy jerseys, posters, decorations. We read every article Marc writes, watch On Iowa Live and the Kirk Ferentz show every week religiously. In the off-season, we watch Hawkeye Report, wait expectently for signing day, and wonder what we will learn about “our” team during the spring game.
In addition to this, the city and the university expect football to bring in money to sustain other athletic programs, bring in donor money to help university academic programs, and provide work for many citizens who remain employed because of the direct or indirect impact of the football program.
I think we could all agree that this is a large amount of responsibility. What is accomplished on that football field on Saturday affects many, many people – whether postively or negatively. Too many negative Saturdays, and the fan base fades, the ticket prices drop, sales of everything with the university logo drop, the university loses programs and people lose their jobs – all riding on the outcome of a game, a season, a four-year college career.
Now in most cases, an organization of this magnitude, and its ability to affect the lives of so many people is run by professionals. Adults who have all of the freedom and privilages given to American adults. They can drink, they can stay out late, and most establishments aren’t going to ask this adult group to leave – rowdy or not – because these successful adults have something the establishments want (and college athletes don’t have) – money. Furthermore, most individuals who are part of successful organizations are also given some leeway and respect from their community because the community realizes the importance of their work and how their jobs benefit the community.
The college football player is largely an exception to these rules: college football players are expected to uphold all of the responsibility that we place on them because of the “importance of the game,” yet they do not receive the respect or decision making abilities given to most people who have this great responsibility beacuse,as we remind them, this is “only a game.” We expect the college football player to provide our entertainment on Saturdays while we have a beer, but tell the college football player that he cannot have one until he is 21. We expect him to bring in the donations that keep many university academic programs running, but tell him he should feel lucky we gave him a scholorship. He works harder then most of us do most days to provide an economy so that those who work in the city can have jobs, and the city creates regulations aimed specifically at getting him in trouble. The college football player also provides enough money to run the entire university athletic program, and then is told that he must jump through athletic program code of conduct hoops to be reinstated even when he is not found guilty.
For the college football player, authority is not given along with responsibility. Now, if most of us had the ability to affect as many lives as a college football player, we would feel at 35, or 45, or 55 that we had earned the right to own a little ego, but we expect him to have none. We feel that his age doesn’t entitle him to one. Yet, we who don’t effect as many lives as he does have an ego large enough to tell him how he should live his life off the field, how he should be playing on the field, and when the coach should replace him because of our egotistical evaluation of his play.
For the college football player, life does not unfold as it does for the rest of us. The college football player’s responsibility is inordinately high at a young age; while we had the weight of just getting through college on our shoulders, they have the additional weight of a university, a community, a state. The college football player’s ability to make decisions is inordinately low at the same time; while we had free time to plan parties, socialize, and engage in activites on campus, the college football player is in the weight room, the film room, the playing field. And, when we were in the bars, or got in trouble, nobody noticed, when they are – everyone does.
This is not to say that there shouldn’t be rules, but only that maybe our perspective as a community should change. If our university, community, and state are going to live off of their financial backs, if we are going to spend such a large portion of our lives to Hawkeye football – we must admit that these athletes are of large value and importance to ourselves and our community.
I don’t ask that they should be allowed to break the law, only that they should be treated with respect and some deference in our community, that they work hard for our benefit, and that when they do make a mistake, we are more concerned about them as people, and about their respective futures then we are about our game.

OK…..enough is enough.
To all the foootball coachs and players, Pull up your big boy pants….
Take a page out of Iowa States play book…..If your having a bad day, get benched, what is all the loyalty about? This is Division 1, NCAA, BIG 10, IOWA football…with approx 100 players, it is not the coachs problem if your having a bad day, but it is the coaches job to bench your butt and play someone that wants to play or isnt having a bad day, there is only 60 minutes to secure the win, not to adjust for next week, rebuild for next year, You are recieving a $100,000 education and all you have to do is pay attention, Coaches you are all making 6 to 7 diget salaries, make the call, that is your job. we have just found out with injuried players that there are guys that want to and can play 3 back on the rooster…so first team players, you can be replaced, coaches, if you can coach, you can be replaced. Give us all you got for 60 minutes, if it has to look like a revoling door, so be it, tired of excuses, shoulded we play them all and win or just a select few and loose….Get tough, do your job…..coaches and players and that should be for all team sports.

Zach Mitchell….that is bull. You cannot justify what these fools have done by writing a huge theory on why they did it. It is plain and simple. They broke the law and deserve punishment. I firmly believe that athletes on scholarships who do this should be kicked out of school and forced to repay the tuition they wasted. They are held to such high sainthood by foolish fans that really need to get a better hobby. This “Hawkeye” worship in eastern Iowa is way of the normal fan stage. And to those who say “all college kids drink’, that is as ridiculous as the saying “boys will be boys”. I quit being an Iowa fan 20 years ago after “fans’ called for the death of the innocent snowplow driver when Chris Street was killed. Now go ahead and write about how awful because I am not a “true” hawkeye fan.

If we threw everyone off the team for simple misdemeanors, James Ferentz and Zach Derby would be gone too. Kyle Calloway would not have been here his last two years and AJ Derby would have been gone before he ever got the chance to ask for a transfer. Among others. As for the argument that Hyde has disgraced us after he received “a free $100K education”, the way they market these kids for the almighty dollar is a scandal as it is. Micah Hyde paid it off long ago with his interception against Missouri in the Insight Bowl, which raised our profile after a pretty mediocre year. None of this stuff happens in a vacuum, so let’s all grow the hell up. Like the Ferentz kid and the Calloway kid and the Derby kids, Hyde and his colleagues will take their medicine and move on. I suggest we do the same.

Just one HUGE question on the Hyde arrest: Why was the bar closing at 1:43AM?? Don’t most establishments close at 2:00??? I think I understand the miscommunication here is staff expected a crowd to disperse, but the crowd sees it is 20 minutes til. Forget that Micah Hyde is a football player. Let’s say it was me in that bar. I would not be moving out the door too quick if I had purchased a drink, and being pushed out at 1:30-1:45. Interested in reading the whole report to see if there is any validity to the accusations of a crowd (including Hyde) “fighting” with staff, and how many others were arrested at this establishment as Hyde was.

All good thoughts. We’re moving on now.

I’ll say this, for right or wrong, the line in the sand for Big Ten football and expulsion and suspension is not clearly drawn. IMO, a felony arrest is the line of demarcation.

Some Big Ten schools let hang in the courts and act if the player is convicted of a felony, which usually takes at least a season to adjudicate. Imagine that. Right now, Michigan might have a felon, DT William Campbell, on its roster. He was charged with one this summer, but I’m not sure where it stands now. You know about Michigan State basically picking up players at jail (not felons) on their way to Kinnick in ’07 and ’10.

Under Ferentz at Iowa, anyone charged with a felony has never played another down at Iowa. All of these players pleaded to something lesser, but they never played another minute at Iowa.

Ferentz runs a tighter ship than most. It’s how I would do it.

Yes, we’re talking about felonies being the line. Yes, that sucks in and out itself. This is industry standard, even though no one has it in the manual or would cop to it.

That is the standard. If you’re not comfortable with that, look away.