
So state Senate District 18 hopefuls Cindy Golding, Republican, and Liz Mathis, Democrat, had their first debate/forum tonight at Linn Mar-High school. I was on the questionineering panel with KCRG’-TV 9′s Chris Earl.
I figured Golding and Mathis would come to their first joint appearance with talking points to stress and a stay-positive-no-mistakes strategy.
I was wrong. They mixed it up.
Now, admittedly, the moderator’s table is about the worst vantage point for these kind of things. I’m taking notes, flipping through question cards, wondering whether I look appropriately interested. And at one point, I could not manage to spit out “Wapsipinicon.”
But even I could make out the body language. Exasperation was evident, especially for Golding when Mathis’ said something she disagreed with, which was often. It wasn’t dislike or animosity. Just aggressive competitiveness. I think the enormous pressure on these candidates, with control of the Iowa Senate hinging on the Nov. 8 special election, was on display.
Golding opened by taking a shot at Senate Democrats for blocking job-creation bills that passed the GOP House, a theme she would return to often during the hour-long forum. Mathis’ opening included a shot at her opponent.
” I think she looks at Iowa’s future and sees one of limited opportunities and short resources,” Mathis said.
“I’m the only one who meets payroll,” Golding shot back when her turn came, explaining how “regulatory red tape” hurts businesses. “Good intentions will not change the nature of the Senate.”
“I would hope that we’d reach across the aisle,” Mathis said in her next turn, a gridlock-is- bad theme that she returned to repeatedly during the debate.
Mathis hit Golding for a TV ad that depicted Mathis, a former TV anchor, as a “celebrity” candidate. Golding said it was the Republican Party of Iowa who ran the ad and she had no control over it. Golding has said she tried and eventually succeeded in having the ad stopped.
Golding said Democrats believe “government is the solution” before criticizing a DOT regulation on the number of hours an auto business must be open, a rule on the nursing ratio in hospitals and a human services regulation she says puts the “distance from school” ahead of a child’s needs.
Mathis labeled them “minutiae” “You know Cindy, this is a real drill-down,” Mathis said, before arguing that it’s big picture issues that voters care about more.
“The devil’s in the details,” Golding said at her next crack, talking about property taxes. “You can fly up above in theory.”
Mathis accused Golding of favoring Gov. Terry Branstad’s proposal for cutting corporate income taxes. Golding said then, and earlier in the forum, that she doesn’t always agree with Branstad. “Maybe you have’t been listening,” Golding said.
When the subject turned to stopping the Brain drain, Golding lamented that her children, who are engineers, did not stay in Iowa. Mathis then curiously questioned why they didn’t go to work at Rockwell Collins when it was hiring. “They got better jobs elsewhere,” Golding said.
Agree on the need for state-funded preschool? Not so much. Mathis for, Golding no.
On the gas tax, agreement! They both say the time is not right to raise it, with the economy still lousy.
Golding seemed much more sure-footed on her core issues — cutting business regulation, reducing/reforming taxes and breaking what Republicans see as a logjam in the Senate. Her victory would create a 25-25 tie which she contends will force the parties to work together.
Mathis was much less sure footed, and seemed to sense at times that she wasn’t doing well. I asked a question from the audience about eliminating Iowans’ ability to deduct federal taxes from their state taxes, “federal deductability,” and she clearly didn’t understand what I was talking about. And when I asked about watershed management, she talked about Palo being a small town that had a rough time, then seemed to lose her train of thought.
On Watershed management, Golding said we have programs in place, which can be reviewed. But it’s not a sound-bite issues and one size does not fit all. Yeah, so I got totally skunked on watershed management. What’s new?
I think Golding’s weakest performance was on education, which she said Iowa schools would be improved by “an attitude change,” but not necessarily new funding. She complained that elementary schools no longer group kids by skill level for reading instruction. They do that at my kids’ school, a block from the site of the debate.
Golding distanced herself at times from Branstad, but at no point did Mathis turn to Golding and say I’m not Mike Gronstal. He’s not running here. I am. I think that was a mistake.
When it was over, a guy in the audience started yelling bout gay marriage and why we didn’t ask about it. It was mostly because we ran out of time. I didn’t get to ask even a third of the questions I brought. And among the audience questions we got, not one was on the marriage issue.
Mathis has said before she agrees with the Iowa Supreme Court ruling on marriage and Golding thinks Iowans should get to vote on a constitutional amendment banning same-sex unions.
The candidates meet again at a League of Women Voters forum at 7 p.m. tomorrow night (Thursday) at the Kirkwood Training and Outreach Service, 3375 Armar Dr., Marion.
Golding can distance herself from Branstad as much as she wants so long as she’s still a candidate. Win the election though, and I predict she’ll find herself kowtowing to both the Iowa GOP and Branstad as a way to repay voters for electing her. The whole thing reminds me of how the TEA faction of the GOP said they wouldn’t be beholden to either major party in the beginning, yet now they’re nicely co-opted by the Republican party.
how does someone not know what the federal detectability in Iowa is ? I think Liz has proven to be little more then an empty suit. I am fairly certain the union overlords will be having a talk with her today.
“federal detectability in Iowa?” Danged if I know what that is.
Jack, it’s “federal deductability.” I don’t like the gotcha questions but it would seem that Cindy Golding has a better understanding of the issues. She has like 7 children and all are engineers, that’s impressive in my book. Goldings strong business background is something we need at this time. And Lori, both parties usually vote their party ideals, Mathis would be no different and as voters, we usually do the same.
Why is having 7 kids impressive? Personally, I think it’s irresponsible.
Having 7 children that are all engineers is impressive in my book, Owen. Don’t you agree? Why is having 7 children irresponsible? As long as no one asks that you support them it should be no busy bodies business.
That being said, Cindy Golding probably knows a thing or two about education, the good, the bad & the ugly.
Sue, obviously I don’t agree. People have children graduate college every day. Seems to me, that’s the children’s accomplishment, not hers.
With nearly seven billion people in the world, having seven children is irresponsible.
I don’t see how having seven children would giver her any more insight into education than a parent having one or two children.
Someone who has actually gone to school, earned a teaching degree and taught children in the classroom has far more insight into educating children than someone like Golding who is running for political office.
And yes, with the population explosion worldwide these days, having so many children is not only irresponsible, and no longer the norm in many places. It is however, still one’s choice to do so, even if a poor one.
Danged if I know what federal detectability is too.
Way to deflect Jeremy. I never once mentioned Mathis in my comment, only Golding.
It’s funny how folks were all worked up about “union bosses” selecting Mathis, and told the rest of us those “union bosses” run the Democrat party. Yet, Cindy Golding had to fight her own party to get the rancid “celebrity ad” pulled; yet again, evidence of how top-down the Iowa GOP is.
I am not so much tired of the continuing debate about same-sex marriage as I am both disgusted and resolved. That lone heckler showed how that one issue and the “social conservative” proponents in the GOP have become the tail that wags the dog. Mathis and Golding are both on record about debating a constitutional amendment, so the heckler’s outburst was unnecessary. And, what can we gain by enacting one of the Iowa House GOP priorities, a “freedom to discriminate” measure which does nothing more than empower self-righteous bullies? My resolve is simple: such measures must be stopped, since they are an assault on real freedom and equality.
I can respect Golding for trying to focus on economic issues, but I also think Mathis was right on target in calling Golding’s vision one of “limited opportunities and short resources,” at least for those of us who are not part of the corporate elite. I just cannot see the Iowa GOP as an organization which has the best interests of all Iowans in mind or any kind of real commitment to making representative government work for all of us.
As someone that isn’t a Demorcrat or a Republican, I was rather taken back by the obvious lack of knowledge and understanding of issues that Liz Mathis displayed. Golding at least appeared to be much smarter and more informed on issues. I think Liz may be another telepromter candidate. We really don’t need that in my opinion. Looking forward to tonight’s debate.
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Last night..Mathis proved what her campaign theme is–”I was on TV–so you can trust me”.
Never mind that Mathis demonstrated on multiple occasions that she didn’t have even a basic grasp on major issues that have been debated at the Statehouse in recent years.
The attack that Mathis made on Golding’s children was cheap and petty. Did Mathis stop to think that Golding’s children may not be electrical or computer engineers?
Lori and Jeff–you do both realize that if Mathis is elected…she will do and say EXACTLY what Mike Gronstal tells her to say? The Iowa Democratic Party has spent well over $200,000 to date on behalf of Mathis for one reason–to keep Mike Gronstal in charge of the Senate.
“to keep Mike Gronstal in charge of the Senate”
Sound okay to me, Todd, since you people want to waste time on divisive social issues (same-sex marriage), write discrimination into law (the so-called “freedom of conscience” bill), and bust unions.
I’ll make a deal with you. The moment Cindy Golding shows her independence by announcing, “I was wrong before, and promise now to never vote for an amendment to ban same-sex marriage, and think the ‘freedom of conscience’ bill was one of the worst ideas to come out of the Iowa House,” I will publicly support her candidacy.
Deal?
Jeff–LOL Quite frankly, I think Golding doesn’t need the support of a radical socialist like yourself.
As Todd Dorman pointed out..Golding stated on numerous occasions that she was NOT Branstad’s choice as a candidate.
However…Mathis at NO point separated herself from Mike Gronstal–and that was for a very good reason.
Mathis knows full well that if she’s elected–what Gronstal says, goes. That’s a big reason why Swati Dandekar choose to resign from the Senate in the first place.
She was growing extremely tired of Gronstal’s refusal to bring up ANY bill passed out of the House.. Not just gay marriage or abortion issues, mind you..Jeff.
One candidate demonstrated a clear grasp of the issues that are being dealt with at the Statehouse..and one did not.
After all of Liz Mathis’s years reporting the news that she would be a better informed candidate than what she displayed last night.
Instead, she again demonstrated she’s running a campaign based upon style rather than substance.
Given that Mike Gronstal is doing what is extremely rare for a politician, standing up for what is right rather than what will keep him in office. Anyone would be proud to be associated with him.
What you saw in Cindy Golding, was a politician who was well coached by her party on where she will stand on every issue. Nothing more.
The Republican Party didn’t invent the acronym RINO for no reason. It was invented as a means to identify and ridicule those who step out of line and no RINO stays in office for long.
My bet is Liz Mathis has been spending most of her time the past few years working to help troubled kids get back on track. In other words, just a regular person who was encouraged to run for office doing the best she could.
Considering that this the first time that Cindy Golding has ever run for office–calling her a “coached politician” is one of the dumbest things I think I’ve ever heard, Owen.
You really think Liz Mathis has been “spending most of her time the past few years working to help troubled kids get back on track”??
That’s a good one Owen, considering that Mathis’s job is doing public relations for Four Oaks–she’s not involved in working with kids.
Cindy Golding wasn’t recruited by anyone–she wasn’t selected to be a candidate behind closed doors like Liz Mathis was, Owen.