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Big Ten expansion candidate: Texas
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The seventh installment in a series looking at 12 different universities that could potentially join the Big Ten
School: Texas- Location: Austin, Texas
- Enrollment: 49,984
- Current League: Big 12 Conference
- Number of sports offered: 20
- Academic profile: Member of the Association of American Universities; 47th in the U.S. News and World Report National Universities rankings
- Why it would fit: Texas boasts the largest revenue of any athletics department and No. 2 (Ohio State) is in the Big Ten. The Big Ten generates the most TV revenue, and Texas has the second-largest population. Texas would add more revenue to the Big Ten and secure more revenue from the league. Texas is top-notch academically and has an athletic reputation virtually unmatched. It has, by far, the most undergraduates of any school considered for the Big Ten. Texas is the heavyweight among heavyweights.
- Why it wouldn’t: Texas is big enough to carry entire leagues. It dragged the Southwest Conference for years before bolting for the Big 12. Now it is the supreme power in that league and could head in several different directions, including the Pac-10.
- Final verdict: If Texas wants to join the Big Ten and is willing to work under the league’s revenue-sharing structure, it’s in. It has become the highest-priced free agent in college athletics history. But a political fight forcing Texas to drag Texas schools Baylor and Texas Tech into a different likely prove too much for the Big Ten to accept them all.
- YouTube moment: A look at Texas football history through its champions and Heisman Trophy winners.
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No, absolutly not!!!
I'd be fine with Texas joining the Big Ten, along with (1) other Texas school. That is the only concession I would want the Big Ten making to Texas. No unequal revenue sharing, no allowing Texas to create their own Longhorn network and keeping all of its revenues, etc.
If UT can accept becoming an equal Big Ten member while bringing along one of its smaller cousins, then fine, it can join. If not, let the Pac-103 take them and all their Texas-sized drama. Or better yet, let the SEC take Texas, and self-implode from in-fighting that Texas seems to cause where ever it goes.
keep Texas…and Notre Dame while we are at it out of the Big 10
where does this "if you take texas, you HAVE to take the step-child A & M, Baylor, etc come from? oh wait. does texas have legislators like Iowa that force the teams in the state to play each other?
You know, that is the other variable here that isn't being covered. The state of Iowa has one school whose viability is being threatened by this conference realignment song and dance. If the B12 implodes, then what will the Iowa legislature do to make sure that it has two viable and money generating Division 1 football programs? Perhaps it is time for the politicians to step in with a conference deal of their own? I've always liked the idea of Minnesota, Wisconsin, NWestern, Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Missouri as one conference. Then take four others from the remaining mix.
Let the schools who are too big for their own 'britches' decide their own fate.
But it sounds mostly like idle summertime banter to me.
problem is it all boils down to money – sadly. although a truly regional conference as you suggest would seem attractive, people from outside those areas won't pay to watch it, and the TV networks will pay little attention to these games, which means less in ad revenue, which means Iowa, Wisconsin, et. al, can forget about big time bowl games, national championships, etc. The money they would lose could not be made up in travel costs saved, etc.
No. It's really very simple. Legislatures, and schools, can not force a conference to take a school that they do not want, since conferences typically require some type of majority vote from the member schools. So the Texas Legislature can't say to the Pac-10, "We're passing a law that forces you to take all of the Texas schools." They do not have that power.
What they do have the power to do, however, is to force Texas to turn down any invitation that does not include the other Texas schools. And that is where the real power lies. Texas believes, rightly or wrongly, that it is such an attractive commodity that it has this bargaining power. So if the Pac-10 extends an invitation to UT but not to the other schools, the Texas legislature will forbid the state institution from accepting it. Thus if the Pac-10 wants Texas, then it invites the other schools as well.
Iowa with ISU is not in the same situation for 2 principal reasons:
1. The University of Iowa is not looking to *join* another conference. Thus there is no weight of, "Ok, we'll join you but only on these conditions."
2. The state of Iowa is not so stupid (OK, I admit that I am stretching here by placing a limit on the stupidity of the Iowa legislature) as to force Iowa to quit the Big Ten conference if the Big Ten did not vote to accept ISU into the conference. I could see the legislature requiring that Iowa vote to turn down any application unless ISU is admitted into the conference, but that lacks a whole lot of power as Iowa is only 1 vote. It would also likely be counter productive, as it would cause hurt feelings within the conference and could cause problems down the road with our membership.
i wouldn't see the legislature having that kind of power today. sure, they can try, but could they pass laws that fast? and we are in the 21st century, not the 18th. there is serious money on the line here. if a legislature puts those kind of conditions on an invitation, look for the conference to pass them over and overlook all of them. this is survival of the fittest. programs should not have to pay for supporting other schools, and taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for covering shortfalls either. if you are not self-sustaining, it has to go! Title IV is based on 'fairness', but all it does is bleed universities. if you ran a business like that , you'd be out of business
They would not need to pass a law.
If a school receives money from the state (not just the athletic department, but the academic side as well), then it is very easy to leverage that: "Reject any invitation unless the other state schools are invited as well, or we'll cut your funding." Whether or not the politicians have the stomach to actually follow through with the threat when push comes to shove is something to be seen, but they can very easily make the threat (and really that is all they can do… cut funding).
Now, if a school receives no money from the state then, well, the state has no real power to dictate what the school does. The state can bloviate all it wishes, but can't cut funds that it doesn't provide.
i agree. if chester and the legislature even try to put strings on this, it will only hurt Iowa's membership in the Big ten. the obvious answer is for the regents to get behind ONE school for football, one for basketball, and so on. membership should be decided based on who is going to pay the most, and that obviously is the Big Ten. combine all of our talent and resources, and share all the revenue – but cut out the dead weight
That would be great for Texas bad for Iowa. Texas would walk all over Iowa.
Some years, yes. Other years Iowa would walk over Texas.
I'm not afraid of Texas in the conference. Would it make things tougher and more competitive? Absolutely. But I have confidence in our coaches and players that they can prepare and beat Texas on a consistent basis.
i recall a couple of games in my lifetime where Iowa took texas to the woodshed. texas would not have even been in the title game had it not been for Nebraska getting robbed in the conference championship. tell me who paid the ref?
If Texas only receives about 10M in TV revenue, about half of what every Big 10 school gets, how can they boast the largest revenue of any athletics department? Where do they make up that 10M difference? That isn't exactly pocket change. Ohio State, along with Michigan and Penn State, all seat 100,000+ for football. Texas can't be that much bigger, can they?
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I visited Texas once. I met a stranger there. He noticed my Hawkeye shirt. He asked if that was the Iowa Hawkeyes. I said yes. He told me that was where Hayden Fry went to coach. And that was all he knew about Iowa.
In short, Texas isn't even looking at the Big10. SEC maybe. Pac10 maybe. But the Big 10 might as well be the Mountain West to Texas.
I think it would be great if the Big 2 didn’t give up rights to the name forcing the Big 10 to stay the Big 10 with 12 schools
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