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Big Ten expansion candidate: Notre Dame
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The second installment in a series looking at 12 different universities that could potentially join the Big Ten
School: Notre Dame- Location: South Bend, Ind.
- Enrollment: 11,731
- Current League: Independent (football); Big East for all other sports (except hockey)
- Number of sports offered: 24
- Academic profile: Not a member of the Association of American Universities; Ranked 20th in the 2010 U.S. News and World Report National Universities rankings, best among prospective candidates and second to only Northwestern among current Big Ten schools.
- Why it would fit: Geographically, Notre Dame fits in the middle of Big Ten country. It already competes against Big Ten schools in most sports, including football. Notre Dame has an unrivaled football tradition that would make it a perfect addition to the Big Ten. Notre Dame has a national audience that instantly would boost the league’s profile, unlike any other candidate. Although it is not a member of the Association of American Universities, Notre Dame’s undergraduate academic standards are top notch.
- Why it wouldn’t: Notre Dame rebuffed the Big Ten’s invitation in 1999. Publicly, school officials have said they prefer to remain independent in football.
- Final verdict: If Notre Dame wants in, it gets in. Athletics Director Jack Swarbrick said this spring he could see a scenario “forcing” the school’s hand into football conference play. But if Notre Dame was forced, would it be a cooperative member? Swarbrick and other officials have backtracked on any external comments, but you can bet internally joining the Big Ten is discussed at great lengths.
- YouTube moment:A collection of great moments in Notre Dame history.
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I hope we wind up with four super conferences and Notre Dame is left out in the cold. Their arrogance will finally catch up with them. I agree with Paterno "They had their chance" On the other hand I would so enjoy watching the Hawks pound them into the turf every year. I can't decide which would be better.
They won't though, that's the thing. They will always have the NBC contract and the BCS catering to them. Why not stay independent? All they need to do to be qualified for a BCS bowl is be in the top 8 BCS ranking, that could be with any amount of wins. Otherwise, by joining a conference, they have to win that conference or get an at-large bid, generally meaning 11+ wins.
I don't think so. NBC will give them a contract only for as long as it is profitable (ie., people are watching and thus ads are being purchased). If Notre Lame continues its downward spiral then their brand is going to be of less and less value.
In addition to this, if conference realignment occurs, I can absolutely see a situation in which the conferences change the BCS to no longer give NL their sweetheart deal. "Join a conference or find your own national title game to play in. This one belongs to the conferences."
NL got its deals because its history and tradition. But that only lasts so long before people stop caring. And when people aren't interested in the product, they stop buying it.
From everything that I have read, and this is again speculation, if the college football landscape changes to the dramatic with four super conferences the BCS selection process would likely narrow even further to those top conferences. Having said that, it is still Notre Dame and even though they havn't been relevant in football for some time they have always enjoyed special consideration that could possibly continue. There is another factor. Any team currently under consideration for the Big Ten, including ND, would benefit financially with the BT Network. In NDs case I have read that they would get about another $8 million a year.
The current NBC/ND deal is $15M/year… Even though the program has sputtered of late, there is still a huge fan following across the nation pulling in 3.7M viewers a game, which isn't too shabby.
Give ND one more chance and if they say no then the Big 10 needs to say that ND can no longer play Michigan, MSU, and Purdue. They play 12 games and 25% are Big 10 teams. If they do not want to join then they are no longer allowed to schedule Big 10 teams.
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I think everyone outside of Notre Dame and a few Hawkeye fans think ND in the B10 is a perfect fit.
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They are a perfect fit. I'm not a big ND fan, but I'm smart enough to know that they have the biggest national following of any college in America. Exactly what the league is looking for, a school that will result in a lot more households subscribing to the Big 10 Network. It would create additional revenue for Iowa and all the other Big 10 schools. It would help ND's recruiting in all their sports, as the BTN covers a lot of minor sports that otherwise would have no chance of being televised. Last, but not least, it would be great to have ND rolling into Kinnick every couple of years for a Big 10 showdown in football. Give in ND, and come on down.
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It sounds like you’re creating problems yourself by trying to solve this issue instead of looking at why
Remember, they love money, so just pretend like you own a goldmine and you’re in the club.
The NBC TV contract only came about because NBC got left out of deals with NFL and the big conferences. But now NBC has Sunday night NFL and those 3+ million Irish faithful are now chump change. I say have the Big 10 get up to 15 members and tell ND "Last chance. But remember this, the schedule won't permit you have games with Michigan or Ohio State anymore."
What I have heard is that ND would make more TV money with the Big16 scenario–a but less money for football, but way more for all other sports.
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